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Seinfeld 'Puffy Shirt' Episode - La Boheme Parody?
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jbollyn
2006-11-29 02:45:23 UTC
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Dear RMO,

I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.

TIA - Jay
Mark
2006-11-29 04:54:07 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
Dear RMO,
I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.
TIA - Jay
Jay,
Sorry to say, I don't get the connection between the "Puffy Shirt"
episode and La Boheme. The "Puffy Shirt" episode is, of course, one of
the great Seinfeld classics. The action hinged on Kramer's girlfriend,
the "low talker" ( another phrase created by this great series) talking
Jerry into wearing the Puffy Shirt on the Tonight show without him
knowing it. The only really operatic episode of Seinfeld was the Angry
Clown/Pagliacci one.
Kind regards,
Mark
Dear Rolando
2006-11-29 07:41:30 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
Dear RMO,
I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.
Also the one where "Carreras' as the third tenor is involved...no name
mentioned..but his poster is involved..i forget hiow..CH
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Post by jbollyn
TIA - Jay
Jay,
Sorry to say, I don't get the connection between the "Puffy Shirt"
episode and La Boheme. The "Puffy Shirt" episode is, of course, one of
the great Seinfeld classics. The action hinged on Kramer's girlfriend,
the "low talker" ( another phrase created by this great series) talking
Jerry into wearing the Puffy Shirt on the Tonight show without him
knowing it. The only really operatic episode of Seinfeld was the Angry
Clown/Pagliacci one.
Kind regards,
Mark
LJO
2006-11-29 12:20:01 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
Dear RMO,
I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.
TIA - Jay
Jay,
Sorry to say, I don't get the connection between the "Puffy Shirt"
episode and La Boheme. The "Puffy Shirt" episode is, of course, one of
the great Seinfeld classics. The action hinged on Kramer's girlfriend,
the "low talker" ( another phrase created by this great series) talking
Jerry into wearing the Puffy Shirt on the Tonight show without him
knowing it. The only really operatic episode of Seinfeld was the Angry
Clown/Pagliacci one.
Kind regards,
Mark>

Mark, that is the same episode in which George becomes a hand model. While
Jerry and Kramer are having dinner with the low talker George is having
dinner with his parents at a different restaurant. When arguing with his
mother about what he is going to do for a job (and listening to his dad talk
about silver dollars), George gets up to get some air. Outside, he
accidentally bumps into a woman and spills her bag. When helping her pick up
her things, the woman notices George's hands. She remarks that he has
exquisite hands and asks if he's ever done any hand modeling. George says no
and she gives him her card. This could have been a Boheme reference but I
don't recall noticing anything in the music that suggested it. ljo
Mark
2006-11-29 14:15:59 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
Dear RMO,
I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.
TIA - Jay
Jay,
Sorry to say, I don't get the connection between the "Puffy Shirt"
episode and La Boheme. The "Puffy Shirt" episode is, of course, one of
the great Seinfeld classics. The action hinged on Kramer's girlfriend,
the "low talker" ( another phrase created by this great series) talking
Jerry into wearing the Puffy Shirt on the Tonight show without him
knowing it. The only really operatic episode of Seinfeld was the Angry
Clown/Pagliacci one.
Kind regards,
Mark>
Mark, that is the same episode in which George becomes a hand model. While
Jerry and Kramer are having dinner with the low talker George is having
dinner with his parents at a different restaurant. When arguing with his
mother about what he is going to do for a job (and listening to his dad talk
about silver dollars), George gets up to get some air. Outside, he
accidentally bumps into a woman and spills her bag. When helping her pick up
her things, the woman notices George's hands. She remarks that he has
exquisite hands and asks if he's ever done any hand modeling. George says no
and she gives him her card. This could have been a Boheme reference but I
don't recall noticing anything in the music that suggested it. ljo
Yes, LJO, same episode. Packed with classic Seinfeldiana.
Dear Rolando
2006-11-29 16:07:52 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
from my
Remember, Mark could never win the contest..wait a minute..he could not
even ENTER it..he needs the equipment first.

Lately..because i am going out so much and singing sop much..i feel i
could win the contest hands down....(hands??????)
jbollyn
2006-12-06 01:31:02 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
Dear RMO,
I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.
TIA - JayJay,
Sorry to say, I don't get the connection between the "Puffy Shirt"
episode and La Boheme. The "Puffy Shirt" episode is, of course, one of
the great Seinfeld classics. The action hinged on Kramer's girlfriend,
the "low talker" ( another phrase created by this great series) talking
Jerry into wearing the Puffy Shirt on the Tonight show without him
knowing it. The only really operatic episode of Seinfeld was the Angry
Clown/Pagliacci one.
Kind regards,
Mark
Hi Mark and RMO,

(I hope this reply from the thread author (me) appears correctly in the
RMO newsgroup. I am using google groups these days, not a real news
reader.)

Another Seinfeld episode opera reference is, quoting from wikipedia:

Parodies
(snip)
The Seinfeld episode 'The Barber' also contains brief snippets of music
from the opera in which Jerry is seen sneaking around his barber's back
with the apprentice.

(end quote)

I am sure there are others.

I did not see the Seinfeld series when it originally aired, so the
recent reruns on FOX are fresh in my mind.

Thanks to all who replied to my admittedly trivial Q.

J.
Mark
2006-12-06 04:36:14 UTC
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Post by jbollyn
Dear RMO,
I just watched a rerun of this Seinfeld episode, and I don't understand
how I missed this obvious opera reference the first time around. George
and whoever bend over to pick up the spilled contents of her purse.
George does not burst into 'Che gelida manina', but rather she hands
him her business card. Is this parody too strained to even contemplate,
or has it occurred to others? This opera is never far from my
consciousness, because it is the work that drew me in.
TIA - JayJay,
Sorry to say, I don't get the connection between the "Puffy Shirt"
episode and La Boheme. The "Puffy Shirt" episode is, of course, one of
the great Seinfeld classics. The action hinged on Kramer's girlfriend,
the "low talker" ( another phrase created by this great series) talking
Jerry into wearing the Puffy Shirt on the Tonight show without him
knowing it. The only really operatic episode of Seinfeld was the Angry
Clown/Pagliacci one.
Kind regards,
Mark
Hi Mark and RMO,
(I hope this reply from the thread author (me) appears correctly in the
RMO newsgroup. I am using google groups these days, not a real news
reader.)
Parodies
(snip)
The Seinfeld episode 'The Barber' also contains brief snippets of music
from the opera in which Jerry is seen sneaking around his barber's back
with the apprentice.
(end quote)
I am sure there are others.
I did not see the Seinfeld series when it originally aired, so the
recent reruns on FOX are fresh in my mind.
Thanks to all who replied to my admittedly trivial Q.
J.
Jay,
As you may have noticed, nothing, and I mean NOTHING is too trivial for
someone on RMO to get into a snit about. Don't worry. Your question was
great.

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